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ashes · May 13, 2010, 03:45 PM // 15:45

If you were running Discord caller on ur monk primary, and u wanted seed of life along - which pve skill would you skip?

Yuna Matsumarui · May 13, 2010, 04:16 PM // 16:16

I'd drop Finish him, because it's not rly nescessary to score a kill.

though Monks are best at healing

is maybe
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Mo/A_AP_Boon-Prot

an idea? should be ran with sabway I think, cuz otherwise the dmg output dies when ur healing.

SimplyAmazing · May 13, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20

If that's what you really want to do, just bring AP (assassin's promise), YMLaD (You Move Like a Dwarf), EVAS (ebon vanguard assassin support), and seed.

I personally, if I was running discord heroes as a monk primary, I would just go RoJ. AP and the pve crap is not essential to the discord setup. Yes it works, but it's not always the best. On a necro, with MoP, Barbs, and etc, it's great because it synergizes well. But a monk, with only pve skills and some heals it is not as useful. RoJ deals massive damage and burning, and depending on what areas, they'll be dead before their AI tells them to scatter. It spreads burning, which the conditions are good for discord, and etc... anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Eragon Zarroc · May 13, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29

i would drop the sin support. YMLaD for the kd and condi, finish him for the deep wound. both instant shouts where sin takes casting time. the discords sometimes drop the targets before the sin even gets in a couple hits and then the sin can't properly move to the next target.

And like SimplyAmazing says, you don't have to run with AP. It works well but other builds work too and can be more fun ;-)

SimplyAmazing · May 13, 2010, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

the discords sometimes drop the targets before the sin even gets in a couple hits

sometimes it's nice having 4-5 sins hopping around.

but yea either way, both ways would work fine.

Eragon Zarroc · May 13, 2010, 04:42 PM // 16:42

ahhh, true. didn't think about the multiple sins being created... I've never done AP, lol. Not entirely sure why i'm commenting on it ;-) lols.

Fusylum · May 13, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53

I just let them do whatever and as a warrior I run eather 100b SY or Dwarven Battlestance Whirlwind and Save Yourselves

Icy The Mage · May 13, 2010, 06:01 PM // 18:01

I've been getting my monk through PvE a little bit a couple weeks ago and I found dropping "Finish Him!" to be worth it when replaced with Seed. Having 3-6 extra vanguard sins running around is just too good to pass up, especially if you don't have a minion army yet!

maxxfury · May 14, 2010, 03:17 PM // 15:17

If you needed deep wound you could load up Augury of Death to all but guarantee the kill and have less chance to bork your ap. Tho it has a cast time of 1 second tho and needs to be cast before they get to -50% health.

Age · May 16, 2010, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

If that's what you really want to do, just bring AP (assassin's promise), YMLaD (You Move Like a Dwarf), EVAS (ebon vanguard assassin support), and seed.

I personally, if I was running discord heroes as a monk primary, I would just go RoJ. AP and the pve crap is not essential to the discord setup. Yes it works, but it's not always the best. On a necro, with MoP, Barbs, and etc, it's great because it synergizes well. But a monk, with only pve skills and some heals it is not as useful. RoJ deals massive damage and burning, and depending on what areas, they'll be dead before their AI tells them to scatter. It spreads burning, which the conditions are good for discord, and etc... anyway, that's my 2 cents.

I agree with what this person is say RoJ would be better or what about using discord with all Nec. heros.

Faye Aeris · May 24, 2010, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Are you running discord to be effective, or are you running it because you like necromancers. If you're looking for effectiveness, there are far better options for a Monk player to bring as heroes.

Lettuce Leaf · Jul 14, 2010, 09:00 PM // 21:00

So tell me, what would they be exactly?

maxxfury · Jul 15, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Lettuce Leaf

So tell me, what would they be exactly?

2 spirits rits, 1 sos and 1 sogm for example and a minion bomber necro? for starters..

Lettuce Leaf · Jul 15, 2010, 06:27 AM // 06:27

If that's just for starters then please tell me more as I'm not too fond of the spirit way builds.

Dusk_ · Aug 06, 2010, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by Faye Aeris

Are you running discord to be effective, or are you running it because you like necromancers. If you're looking for effectiveness, there are far better options for a Monk player to bring as heroes.

Monk's are actually one of the few times I would recommend Discord...just because it's focused damage.

Spiritway is awesome when you're running a damage dealer, because you can pick off the priority targets yourself, while your team dishes out the high DPS. With a Monk, you're basically sitting idle while your H/H throw damage around randomly (even with calling), and unfortunately end up stalling with far too many mobs.

That said, I would never, ever drop "Finish Him!". That's about the only thing that keeps Discordway tolerable for me, being able to score those quicker kills when my Heroes decide to start spamming other crap around.

dark4190 · Sep 20, 2010, 07:00 PM // 19:00

When I'm on my monk, I bring 3 discord heros. All 3 of them create 2 minions per corpse, using animate bone minions, and 1 of them has Blood of the Master & Heal Area. There is no "bombing", I like my minions alive- all 30 of them. They're awesome meat-shields.

At this point, since you've got an insane army, healing is a joke. The only issue is that the necro with Blood of the Master, needs a big heal every time he uses it. But that's a predictable, easy heal. If I'm in the mood to speed things up, I'll go AP, YMLAD, FH!, EVAS, signet, signet, banish, rebirth and bring 2 henchmen monks. If you know your skills, you'll know that you can use AP to hex them, then YMLAD to Knockdown, then cast EVAS and since the target is hexed, the sin will knock them down again. 2 knockdowns should be plenty of time for your discords to hurt a monk hard enough for you to use FH! and take him out.

tl;dr
don't get rid of any of your skills as an AP Discord caller. If your team is taking too much damage, bring a second MM!